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A case in point were the three Hebrews who wouldn't bow down to the image of the king of Babylon and how we shouldn't get involved in nationalism and elevate one's own country above God.
Then, how Jesus condemned the Pharisees for following and even adding to traditions instead of following God's word and how wrong the churches of Christendom are today for doing the same thing.
Knowing this to be the mindset of those we're trying to help discern the real truths from God's word, is an approach I hope to use more and have to a small extent already used with positive results.
As I was reading over 2 Thessalonians, specifically chapter 2, had a similar observation as to verse 7 where it says "the secret power of this lawlessness is already at work". There seemed to be some misinformation concerning Christ's second coming at that time, which was causing some to stop what they were doing and just wait for this to happen. This sounds eerily familiar to the Watchtower repeatedly calling attention to this same thing, although there's more confusion than ever after the July 2013 Watchtower as to when Jesus actually came. I believe now they are being taught that he came in kingly power in 1914 (or "around 1914" per excerpt in their new bible) and will come to judge sometime in the near future (sheep and the goats). In the past, the Watchtower referred to actual months and not even years to Armageddon. The result time and time again were that some discontinued their "normal" living, sold homes, quit their jobs, put off starting a family to ready themselves for this to happen sooner and ignore Christ's admonition to be ready all the time, because nobody but his Father knows the "day and the hour". This "day and hour" is a whole other subject, but suffice to say this seems to me to hit awfully close to home.
Even though similar, I'm wondering if anyone has a "take" on "the secret power of this lawlessness" referring to an attempt by prominent ones then to remove Christ and the New Covenant from the equation as I read on in chapter 3 and verse 6,..."to keep away from every believer who is 'idle' and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us". I'm reminded of Paul's earlier experience when he had to travel back to Jerusalem to correct the misinformation of prominent ones that traveled from Jerusalem to Antioch in order to teach those there that it was necessary to be circumcised, which, I think we know was really an attempt to reintroduce the Mosaic Law as necessary for salvation for the newly formed "churches" and if successful would in turn invalidate the need for Christ to suffer and give his life as a ransom. The GB today has successfully (IMO) removed Christ as well as the anointed from the equation by focusing on salvation from Jehovah's name and not Jesus as a pretty good starting point. This is all with the understanding that this (calling on the name of Jesus) is necessary until he actually hands over the kingdom to his Father and it becomes God's Kingdom.
I had shown a few Witnesses the Greek Interlinear translation of Romans 10:9 where it refers to salvation resulting from declaring Jesus as Lord, but how the NWT changed verse 13 to "calling on the name of Jehovah", when it should read "calling on the name of the Lord" (Jesus). Recently, I started using the Society's Greek Interlinear in my personal Bible reading and am really wowed by how many times the WTS has changed Lord to read Jehovah, especially in the letters Paul wrote to the congregations (actually anointed meeting in individual homes). I read over Pearl's article again on the "Man of Lawlessness" and since it's describing the elders in that role, because the "wicked slave" (GB) doesn't want to get their hands dirty, is it possible that the false anointed back then had their "minions" that they appointed as elders do their dirty work in traveling around trying to reinsert the Mosaic Law? I apologize for being a bit "speculative" on this aspect, but if it was found to be the case, would make for an interesting parallel account.
Also in 2 Thess. 2:4 where it says that "he will oppose and exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God", is this possibly when he (the beast) at Rev. 17:16 "exposes her" (the harlot) and is left standing? They are at one point "serving together for one hour", but we know it doesn't last. I think we all understand the "players" in prophecies like this, thanks to Pearl's writings, but when I came across this verse, thought of a particular timing of this in relation to Revelation 17. Just thought I'd share my thoughts and inquiries and wondering if anyone else had any success in finding ways to "witness to Witnesses".
Last Edited By: elsinore777 Dec 21 13 9:43 AM. Edited 1 time